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whats peoples thoughts on this guys punishment ???? receives 10 years for kneeing umpire in the face then laying into him.



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Seems light to me, you cant touch the umps in any sport.
I would have thought a lifetime ban would have been imposed.

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rubbish coldy, he's only 16. You can't punish a kid for life for something he did at that age. 5 years would probably been sufficient, with a lifetime suspended sentence hanging over his head if he farked up again.

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This thug has received 10 yellow cards in a season before this incident, so that was his eleventh fark up of the season Train, so you are saying go easy on him. pffffffffffffftttt. Life ban for this thug who doesn't belong on any sporting field. The league tribunal is pissweak.

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Gee you umpires stick fat. You didn't hear of any uproar from the players when JKP told the magistrate he lost part of his tongue in a car accident.

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He's only 16 stumpy I say give him a chance to grow up and be an adult before he's banned for life. I'm with g train, 5 years would've been about right I'm sure he'd think twice next time. Have you seen what it takes to be sent off in juniors these days?

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I think 10 years is ok, he will be 26 by the time he can play football and at 26 we are alot more mature. Agree with Gtrain about not banning him.

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Stump, this is the first i've heard of the whole incident. I just don't think any kid should be banned from sport for life at the age of 16. Do you know what background the kid has had? Do you know anything about him? I don't, but for all we know the kid might need sport in his life when he's a bit older and to stop him from playing ever again is rubbish.

Yellow cards in junior football, could be for swearing, a hip and shoulder, tripping, arguing with umpires etc. That doesn't mean anything.

What was the umpies role in this? Was the attack totally unprovoked?

Spare me the weak as piss crap, the tribunal sound like they've done the right thing to me.

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Train, your aggression towards Stumpy here is a prime example of umpire abuse. Wouldn't be suprised if sometime this season you blow your top and whack an easy target like Mutton Chops or Nugget for turning down an LBW appeal.

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Prince, poor old Bobby Fraser can't even walk his dog around Archie on a Tuesday or Thursday night with out being on the end of a verble tirade coming from Train. Rumour has it he also gets personal with his sledges - something about keys.

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Cold one Gtrain was not implying he should of got off, Infact he agrees there should have been a ban, surely you can read that from his post. So most of what you said will be overlooked and taken in as you seem to have gone off on a different tangent.

Stumpy it's not always about just bans pal, In a small comparison like our justice system some times we néed to get to the source of the problem and re-educate so people can learn and develop especially our youth. Wd can't just ban or lock up people for life every time there is a indiscretion seriously!

People deserve a second chance, The lad is16 and what he did was wrong but at 16 he has time to mature, grow and develop into a good human being and time to right his wrongs, I know you grew up in a period were women stayed home n cooked n cleaned were murderers received the death penalty............things are different now pal and how would you view the situation is it was you'r 16 year old son (who clearly has some issues) would you still believe in a life ban from a possible sport he loves and throws his energy into, would you rather see him on the streets in Saturdays angry at society, vandalizing and taking drugs, thieving to get his next hit??? Dramatic yes, but that's how it goes for some people.


-- Edited by Beaverreturns on Friday 10th of August 2012 01:19:55 AM

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Train reckons this should've been nothing more than a free kick to the opposition

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDMlxoUhPSo

Pretty sure umpire Des Renfry got spear tackled by a player at afternoon tea about 7 years ago. Player got 2 games I think.

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It wasn't that long ago prince, 5 years tops I reckon.

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Train, where are generation Y-NOT's boundarys set?
Is it ok to head butt an umpire if you are not an adult?
is it ok to head butt an umpire if you are an adult?
Answer is NO to both questions........... dont like these rules, dont play.
Whatever happened to accepting the umps decision? Yes we get it wrong sometimes, I know I do, I dont mean it, I just see it different to you. But if you want ppl to umpire your games, you cant have the possibility that there will be retrebution if you saw it differently, thats not on bro and you all know it and you know when to stop complaining, most of the time (andre excepted)
Im OK with playin hard but you gotta know the limits and for mine, headbutting an umpire is way over my limit.
peace, love and karma, thats what every game needs

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Umpires side of the story from Herald Sun

He said he had paid two 50m penalties before the attack.

"Next thing I knew was this kid threw the ball into my head from about a metre away. I said, 'Righto a Mt Eliza free kick', and then he lost the plot," he said.

"Another Chelsea player joined in. I tried to calm them down but they wouldnt. So I said, 'OK, you are both sent off, yellow card'.

"But this kid just lost control of his actions and Ive never seen anyone in society or on any sporting field just the hate towards something, thats what it was. Thats what it was, hatred.

"Then Ive given him a red card and as I was about to pull out the red card from my sock, hes grabbed my head with two hands and kneed me with as much force as he could to the face and then went on to lay multiple punches.

"He got pulled away and I got away. It was scary looking at him and his face. That was a scary moment.

"Then he got away and just charged (at me). That was scary."

Ball to the head then knee to the face then punched then another attempt to get at umpire.  Four different assaults on an umpire admittedly all in the one or two incidents and he only gets ten years.   Doesn't matter how old he is the knee to the face could have caused more than a bloody nose luckily it didn't.  As I said before a thug.  Umpire will not umpire again.



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Beaverreturns wrote:

Cold one Gtrain was not implying he should of got off, Infact he agrees there should have been a ban, surely you can read that from his post. So most of what you said will be overlooked and taken in as you seem to have gone off on a different tangent.

Stumpy it's not always about just bans pal, In a small comparison like our justice system some times we néed to get to the source of the problem and re-educate so people can learn and develop especially our youth. Wd can't just ban or lock up people for life every time there is a indiscretion seriously!

People deserve a second chance, The lad is16 and what he did was wrong but at 16 he has time to mature, grow and develop into a good human being and time to right his wrongs, I know you grew up in a period were women stayed home n cooked n cleaned were murderers received the death penalty............things are different now pal and how would you view the situation is it was you'r 16 year old son (who clearly has some issues) would you still believe in a life ban from a possible sport he loves and throws his energy into, would you rather see him on the streets in Saturdays angry at society, vandalizing and taking drugs, thieving to get his next hit??? Dramatic yes, but that's how it goes for some people.


-- Edited by Beaverreturns on Friday 10th of August 2012 01:19:55 AM


 Rather big assumptions there Beaver.  I grew up opposing the death penalty and I lived within 500 metres of Pentridge.  I actually played a cricket match inside the walls one Sunday arvo as a relief for the prisoners and one on French Island when it was a penal colony. So I know what it means for people to participate in sport who are rejected by society because of unsociable behaviour.

Women I knew would kick you in the nuts if you told them to cook or stay in  the kitchen.  

Sport is also about life lessons and that means if you cannot hold it together on the field then you don't deserve to be there.  No mention has been made of the 19 year old who will now walk those mean streets you mentioned destined never to officiate a game he loves because of his fear of being assaulted.

What of young Tom Liberatore will he turn to beng a drug addict because he has been suspended from playing.

The correlation between this U16s actions and turning to a life of drugs and crime is a long bow to draw,              pal.



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umpires winning by a mile. dirty little thug.

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While i dont agree or disagree with the penalty,An unprovoked attack on an umpire is unacceptable at any level, and to blame it on his age is not a viable defence at 16 you are not short of been an adult,yes Beaver things are different now, at 16 I was still terrifed and had respect for any level of authority be it my parents, teachers or the police something which the current generation doesnt process
True we donot know his background or family situation, but what would be the feeling if it was a general member of the public that he attacked in this manner.
What would he have got a piss weak sentence, counselling cause he was abused as a child , he has anger issues, his family environment is too blame or just another angry young man. How many times have we laughed at the sentences handed down by our legal systems for rapist,assults etc yet we are prepared to defend this because it happened on a sporting field and not the street



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But jake is his 10 year ban not ample? He can't play football during his peak, I think they got it right but from you'r post it does not show exactly what you think. 10 years or for life? Remembering I never said he should of got off I just think life ban is to steep!

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Four days since resident rodent's last post. Trust it wasn't him in news item in MX rag today, headed ''Beaver's ambush'', with sub-head ''Rabid Attack''.

Turns out ''a rabid'' beaver attacked a scout leader in New York's Delaware river. Sank its razaor sharp teeth into his chest, the inside thighs (phew! close call) and on his butt.

''It just kept attacking me and attacking me,'' 51-year old Norman Brousseau lamented. ''I'd get it off me and it would bite me again . . . I got bit in six different spots.''

But be aware rodents everywhere: you just can't win.

The scout leaders troop of kids  killed the poor thing by repeatedly smashing rocks on it for five minutes. (are they teaching scouts overkill like everything else in the US these days?)

Rodent got some sort of revenge: scout leader had to have 20 rabies shots (obviously not in his sore arse).

 



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