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Hey Matt, I just wondered whether you had started to change your opinion on Broad of late. I remember we argued a good while back when I said he would be a top international allrounder one day. I think he is starting to come good.

In the last year he has over 50 test wickets at 26 apiece and averaged 25 with the bat for good measure. At 23 I think he is going to keep developing into one of England's best players for some time. Especially now he bowls up at around the 93mph mark.

Thoughts?

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your off spinner is the only player australia need. we all ready have a gay looking selfish all rounder.

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An exciting talent gooch no doubt, would need to get the average a lot higher to be considered a top all rounder, prob around the 35 to 40 runs. Whats his highest score?

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Gooch it was his bowling I never used to rate, the Ashes series changed my mind on that.

Would that have been a break out series for his bowling? He seems to have taken off since then...........

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Yeah I think so Matt. The extra yard delivered from 6 foot 6 has definitely taken him up a notch. And yes Mick, he has had several 50s but no hundreds. More likely will end up a bowling alrounder like Johnson.

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didnt johnson just become the 5th player ever to take 50 wickets and make 500 runs in a year, broad has a bit of catching up to do

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And If Broad scores 49 in this test he will join the same club.

Broad is 23. Johnson is 28.

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mitchell johnson 63 wickets, stuart broad 46 wickets, not sure if it includes the test matches going on now though

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Broad is becoming a very very good cricketer.

Just throwing it out there for debate, who would you rather have in your test side right now.

Stuart Broad (23) or Mitchell Johnson (28)

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Johnson

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The Beav and Goofy show again. As soon as England does well they are the greatest ever. Still the worst smelling showerless under performing joint thats exeists...!

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It didn't include the current game (though you knew that) so yes he got his 50 wickets.

It's close because obviously Johnson is a gun. I'd genuinely go with Broad though. He will likely end up the better player. He's as fast as Johnson already and he hasn't filled out fully yet. Not much in it batting wise. Broad looks more solid but Johnson more destructive.

I'd also throw Graeme Swann in as a very useful alrounder these days. Just get this for his 2009.

452 runs at 45 and 54 wickets at 27!!









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As much as i love Mitch i would probably take Broad.......5years age difference massive factor.
I find myself agreeing with all of Goochys last post......in saying that i wonder what Mitch & Broad Batting avg would be for the last year?

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Google it.......

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BErnst wrote:

As much as i love Mitch i would probably take Broad.......5years age difference massive factor.
I find myself agreeing with all of Goochys last post......in saying that i wonder what Mitch & Broad Batting avg would be for the last year?



 beav you asked who would you prefer now, not who's better for their age



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Goochy wrote:

It didn't include the current game (though you knew that) so yes he got his 50 wickets.

It's close because obviously Johnson is a gun. I'd genuinely go with Broad though. He will likely end up the better player. He's as fast as Johnson already and he hasn't filled out fully yet. Not much in it batting wise. Broad looks more solid but Johnson more destructive.

I'd also throw Graeme Swann in as a very useful alrounder these days. Just get this for his 2009.

452 runs at 45 and 54 wickets at 27!!


didn't know, it was a genuine question

 



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Players Taking 50 Wickets in a Calendar Year
(calculated for matches beginning in named year)
PlayerCountryYearOversMdnsRunsWktsAvg
Warne, S KAustralia2005722.414121149622.02
Muralitharan, M*Sri Lanka2006588.413715219016.90
Lillee, D KAustralia1981618.214717818520.95
Donald, A ASouth Africa1998538.413515718019.64
Muralitharan, M*Sri Lanka2001781.221616998021.24
Garner, JWest Indies1984604.214816297920.62
Kapil DevIndia1983578.111217397523.19
Muralitharan, M*Sri Lanka2000623.214714637519.51
Kapil DevIndia1979592.114116997422.96
Kumble, A India2004613.212618387424.84
Steyn, D W *South Africa2008442.18514817420.01
Marshall, M DWest Indies1984541.511914717320.15
Warne, S KAustralia1993842.231616977223.57
McKenzie, G DAustralia1964618.011917377124.46
Warne, S KAustralia1994629.021712747018.20
Warne, S KAustralia2004578.412416857024.07
Pollock, S MSouth Africa1998598.416514116920.45
Flintoff, A*England2005532.28916606824.41
McGrath, G D Australia2001584.419614736821.66
Muralitharan, M*Sri Lanka1998550.216112566818.47
Warne, S KAustralia1997681.519416616824.43
Harmison, S J*England2004526.511516036723.93
McGrath, G D Australia1999560.416714256721.27
Warne, S KAustralia2002479.010913106719.55
Botham, I TEngland1978414.19512016618.20
Walsh, C AWest Indies2000583.318412346618.70
Hadlee, R JNew Zealand1985431.210411166417.44
Harbhajan Singh*India2002594.313214636323.22
Harbhajan Singh*India2008705.010319876331.54
Johnson, M G *Australia2008585.010718286329.02
Johnson, M G *Australia2009502.58917286327.43
McGrath, G D Australia1997518.515113476321.38
Botham, I TEngland1981556.213615846225.55
Imran KhanPakistan1982393.11128246213.29
McGrath, G D Australia2005524.015213526221.81
Walsh, C AWest Indies1995508.311113496221.76
Barnes, S FEngland1912366.5998636114.15
Harbhajan Singh*India2001570.413315576025.95
Marshall, M DWest Indies1988412.58210726017.87
Ntini, M*South Africa2003469.010615665926.54
Fraser, A R CEngland1998484.511613275822.88
Hoggard, M J*England2005408.56115145826.10
Ntini, M*South Africa2006358.56112535821.60
Vaas, W P USri Lanka2001489.112413235822.81
Warne, S KAustralia2001583.311318095831.19
Hughes, M GAustralia1993505.312714485725.40
Kumble, A India2006633.013019105733.51
Lee, B*Australia2008580.110518845733.05
MacGill, S C GAustralia2003524.410716875729.60
Trueman, F SEngland1963407.1899995717.53
Willis, R G DEngland1978419.39410675718.72
McDermott, C JAustralia1991402.48211885621.21
Gillespie, J NAustralia2004514.312913695524.89
Mailey, A AAustralia1921474.56415675528.49
Muralitharan, M*Sri Lanka2002472.41399795517.80
Pollock, S MSouth Africa2001521.016611765521.38
Waqar YounisPakistan1993271.0588385515.24
Alderman, T MAustralia1981445.210512225422.63
Benaud, RAustralia1959482.217710075418.65
Kumble, A India1999581.515814615427.06
Marshall, M DWest Indies1983395.19911165420.67
Ntini, M*South Africa2008471.110215375428.46
Swann, G P*England2009518.011115085427.93
Vettori, D L*New Zealand2008590.315514115426.13
Garner, JWest Indies1980454.21398805316.60
Holding, M AWest Indies1976378.39810805320.38
Trumble, HAustralia1902440.01409745318.38
Chandrasekhar, B SIndia1976493.310814585228.04
McGrath, G D Australia1995386.39211385221.88
Muralitharan, M*Sri Lanka2005341.3689635218.52
Warne, S KAustralia1995508.315612545224.12
Willis, R G DEngland1982404.47212365223.77
Hoggard, M J*England2006521.511715605130.59
Mankad, M HIndia1952550.220511065121.69
Noble, M AAustralia1902368.01009895119.39
Saqlain MushtaqPakistan2002441.38212485124.47
Zaheer Khan*India2002479.110814795129.00
Alderman, T MAustralia1989432.011810675021.34
Willis, R G DEngland1977339.45810495020.98


Bugger me Johnson and Broad are a long way down this list.  Have a look at one R Benaud in 1959.  Genuine allrounder

-- Edited by Darrel Hair on Thursday 31st of December 2009 09:05:54 PM

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Johnson for mine, his a left hander which is always handy. From what I have seen he hits a better ball than Broad also.

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