Final Four

prince mark · Status: Offline

RE: Final Four

Woofa · Status: Offline

Maybe if they are going to pull a shifty they should know the rules

fathertime · Status: Offline

i had a look in my laws of cricket book.......which is 6-7 yrs old so out of date. But i couldn't find that law in it. There was no 14a in it.

Moose and ??? were the officiating umpires and were off for 5 mins working out if buckley could do what they did.

Even if they got it wrong......the ddca can't/wont change the result.

G Train · Status: Offline

fathertime wrote:

i had a look in my laws of cricket book.......which is 6-7 yrs old so out of date. But i couldn't find that law in it. There was no 14a in it.

Moose and ??? were the officiating umpires and were off for 5 mins working out if buckley could do what they did.

Even if they got it wrong......the ddca can't/wont change the result.

Fark me FT, where did that come from? That's probably one of your best ever posts. I actually agree with you 100% on that one. They can't change the decision, if the umpires allowed to happen on the day even if it is in fact against the law, then that's the umpires fault. The umpires decison on the day has to stand. Take it up with them if it's wrong, not the team.

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Darrel Hair wrote:

I'm with Bards on this one. Buckley could have enforced the follow on after Parkfield declared.

The interesting thing is that Buckley declaring their innings closed must take the field and the Parkfield bowler start his run up and wait for the ball to become dead before they can declare their innings closed at 0/0. If you want to argue see the link below.

http://www.lords.org/data/files/law_14_qanda-9669.pdf

Law 14 (Declaration and forfeiture)

1. Time of declaration
The captain of the batting side may declare an innings closed, when the ball is dead, at any time during a match.

2. Forfeiture of an innings
A captain may forfeit either of his side's innings. A forfeited innings shall be considered as a completed innings.

Are you sure that the Buckley Captain didn't forfeit his innings? In that case the umpires were correct.

14A is not a law. Its an interpretation point of Law 14.

Bards · Status: Offline

Whether or not they were allowed to declare at 0/0 or forfeit it's innings ( FWIW I think they can), it's irrelevent. The point is that they could have enforced the follow on if parkfield suprises them with a clever declaration. If they wanted to win, this is what thru would have done. There was obviously an agreement for a double declaration.

Bards · Status: Offline

Actually, I suppose there is one reason why they would have not enforced the follow on. They may have thought they were more likely to get wickets if parkfield chased. Risky though.

G Train · Status: Offline

Yeah i suppose it does change it a bit Bards if you can actually force the follow on even though they weren't bowled out. Which does actually make more sense to me, i was actually told by a couple of people Saturday night that you couldn't enforce it, and silly me took there word for it.

You also made a good point there that they would be more of a chance of getting Parkfield out with them chasing to win. It's not really risky though, as they had nothing to lose. They needed an outright to make it.

Bards · Status: Offline

Its only risky because the other option is to put them back in, and even if they manage to get 10 runs in front you still have a chance to chase the 10. By declaring they had to bowl them out. In hindsight, and isnt that a wonderful thing, they made the perfect choice, just enough runs and just enough overs.

G Train · Status: Offline

Ah ok yeah i'm with ya now. Yeah in hindsight, what a brilliant farking declaration! By one run and one ball, you couldn't dream of doing it any better than that!

MoreDiscipline · Status: Offline

This has made for fantastic reading! Roll on the finals!!

G Train · Status: Offline

Yep, should be a cracking finals series. From what i can tell, the best four sides are in there now. Look forward to getting down the cave on Sunday Arvo for a look and a few quiet froffs.

BErnst · Status: Offline

There is no risk Bards. It was either.

A- Try and make the finals.
B- Not try and make the finals.

Clearly they chose (A)

Then there next choice was what will give us the best chance at (A)

1- Declare 0/0 giving Parkfield a sporting chance to make the finals still knowing they will chase the target down all the way irrespective of how many wickets in the shed thus giving more opportunities for a Buckley outright.

2- Not to to declare at 0/0 meaning Parkfield can't make it thus for only giving them the motivation to stop Buckley from making it which would incurr Parkfield to just block it out.

Not hard to see there was no risk involved just cricket smarts.

max · Status: Offline

BErnst wrote:

There is no risk Bards. It was either.

A- Try and make the finals.
B- Not try and make the finals.

Clearly they chose (A)

Then there next choice was what will give us the best chance at (A)

1- Declare 0/0 giving Parkfield a sporting chance to make the finals still knowing they will chase the target down all the way irrespective of how many wickets in the shed thus giving more opportunities for a Buckley outright.

2- Not to to declare at 0/0 meaning Parkfield can't make it thus for only giving them the motivation to stop Buckley from making it which would incurr Parkfield to just block it out.

Not hard to see there was no risk involved just cricket smarts.

cricket smarts what the fark would you know about cricket smarts you imposter !!!!

BErnst · Status: Offline

Thank you Max more then happy for you to vent your spline if it makes you feel better. ashamed

sir · Status: Offline

not much feedback from buckley or parkfield on this topic!!!!!!

beaver, can you tell us how you guys lost 10 fa 20? i noticed you were stumped, did you dance down the wicket and try to put him out the ground? ?

max · Status: Offline

BErnst wrote:

Thank you Max more then happy for you to vent your spline if it makes you feel better.

i think its a bit rich of you coming on here and talking about cricket smarts, i mean come off it mate who are you kidding here ??

did you check out the name of the forum that you started posting on today or did you forget what transpired over the weekend ??

2 OLD 2 SLOW · Status: Offline

G Train wrote:

Yep, should be a cracking finals series. From what i can tell, the best four sides are in there now. Look forward to getting down the cave on Sunday Arvo for a look and a few quiet froffs.

clearly

sir · Status: Offline

2o2s, honest answer required.

if you were in parks and bucks shoes , what would you have done?

max · Status: Offline

sir wrote:

2o2s, honest answer required.

if you were in parks and bucks shoes , what would you have done?

you would hope the right thing Sir !!