Open letter to DDCA

fridge roberts · Status: Offline

RE: Open letter to DDCA

Scruffy · Status: Offline

As a club we were very disappointed in the circumstances that prevailed in the Parkfield VS Buckley Ridges game which resulted in an outright victory that ultimately cost us a finals spot.
There was nothing wrong in what prevailed! I know from speaking to Coomoora players that mordi were going to declare at 0/0 in their match against Coomoora because some believed it was in mordis best interest to get an outright win. They didnt but what is wrong with searching for the maximum points providing there is no collusion involved! You dont crack it when a team declares in the 70^th over to try and pick up some wickets b4 the end of play do you, so why crack it when a team declares 8 down to help improve its chance of an outright? Its giving your team the best chance at a victory and in turn a chance at playing in finals!
Perhaps the DDCA may consider an amendment to the rules as per above if they consider that the match in questions results process was something it would prefer to avoid and if they consider that this particular match result could be construed by some as a contrived result

DDCA or any1 else shouldnt see this result as a contrived result because it wasnt. I believe it added a good twist to the last round and it was 2 teams trying to make the finals at all costs! Buckley and Parkfield were not trying to knock ss out they were trying to get into the 4 thats all!.

Let me say again we are not for one minute saying that the game in question was. We would however like to discourage any possibility of this contentious issue being raised again in the future.
Again who thinks this is a contentious issue apart from ss?

We have no intention of pointing the finger or making accusations in regards to this particular result.
No but you did about the doveton v mordialloc result where you imply the wicket at Mordialloc was poorly prepared.
Moreover, other clubs could severely minimize the length of their 1^st Innings to concentrate on an outright result, or in an even worse case scenario both clubs could forfeit their first Innings therefore allowing them to play for 8 points.
Thats providing both would benefit from it and there was collusion involved! Why would Cooomoora, mordi , narre or keysy do this in the last round this season? They wouldnt therefore what is the problem?

Unfortunately for us we were the victim of circumstance last week when two outright results in one day (no other outrights recorded in Turf 1 all year) conspired against us
You went undefeated last year thru the home and away season then got rolled in the final. Do you want to change the rules to solve that problem???
Our club is very concerned that after a week of great weather, a pitch (Mordialloc) may appear to be so poorly prepared that it would clearly advantaged the bowling team to such an extent that Doveton could take 17 wickets in a day for approx 180 runs.
you have never played a 2 day game there so you would not know whether a low turning deck is normal or not. Mordi dont have a spinner so the week before may have suited turn as well but mordi didnt have the bowler to exploit it
The SSCC has no animosity at all towards the Doveton CC and congratulates them not only on their win but their finish to gain a spot in the four. Nor does it have any issue with the Mordialloc CC,
Their curator is a Mordialloc player so how can you say you have no issue with them?
but to hear those who played commenting on the ball keeping low and turning square (off spin bowler took 14 wickets for 83) disappoints us because it again leads to questions by others about the integrity of that particular game
Are you questioning any game where there are lots of wickets discrepancies from one week to another?
and the competition in general. Now we werent there and we didnt see any of the game so we therefore know that if there were any issues with the pitch then the umpires would be detailing them in their report.
Little dig at the umpires in question to try and force them to make some form of report about the wicket
I guess we as a club are spoilt with the professional curation that we get from the COGD and can perhaps at times overlook the fact that not all clubs have the same advantages that we have.The aim of this letter is not to whinge or complain about how we were hard done by.
Your kidding arent you??? Look above, if that is not whinging or complaining i dont know what is!

right arm pie chucker · Status: Offline

G. Train thanks for that.

the persuader · Status: Offline

Scruffy wrote:

As a club we were very disappointed in the circumstances that prevailed in the Parkfield VS Buckley Ridges game which resulted in an outright victory that ultimately cost us a finals spot.
There was nothing wrong in what prevailed!I know from speaking to Coomoora players that mordi were going to declare at 0/0 in their match against Coomoora because some believed it was in mordis best interest to get an outright win. They didnt but what is wrong with searching for the maximum points providing there is no collusion involved!You dont crack it when a team declares in the 70^th over to try and pick up some wickets b4 the end of play do you, so why crack it when a team declares 8 down to help improve its chance of an outright?Its giving your team the best chance at a victory and in turn a chance at playing in finals!
Perhaps the DDCA may consider an amendment to the rules as per above if they consider that the match in questions results process was something it would prefer to avoid and if they consider that this particular match result could be construed by some as a contrived result

DDCA or any1 else shouldnt see this result as a contrived result because it wasnt. I believe it added a good twist to the last round and it was 2 teams trying to make the finals at all costs! Buckley and Parkfield were not trying to knock ss out they were trying to get into the 4 thats all!.
Let me say again we are not for one minute saying that the game in question was. We would however like to discourage any possibility of this contentious issue being raised again in the future.
Again who thinks this is a contentious issue apart from ss?
We have no intention of pointing the finger or making accusations in regards to this particular result.
No but you did about the doveton v mordialloc result where you imply the wicket at Mordialloc was poorly prepared.
Moreover, other clubs could severely minimize the length of their 1^st Innings to concentrate on an outright result, or in an even worse case scenario both clubs could forfeit their first Innings therefore allowing them to play for 8 points.
Thats providing both would benefit from it and there was collusion involved!Why would Cooomoora, mordi , narreor keysy do this in the last round this season? They wouldnt therefore what is the problem?
Unfortunately for us we were the victim of circumstance last week when two outright results in one day (no other outrights recorded in Turf 1 all year) conspired against us
You went undefeated last year thru the home and away season then got rolled in the final. Do you want to change the rules to solve that problem???
Our club is very concerned that after a week of great weather, a pitch (Mordialloc) may appear to be so poorly prepared that it would clearly advantaged the bowling team to such an extent that Doveton could take 17 wickets in a day for approx 180 runs.
you have never played a 2 day game there so you would not know whether a low turning deck is normal or not. Mordi dont have a spinner so the week before may have suited turn as well but mordi didnt have the bowler to exploit it
The SSCC has no animosity at all towards the Doveton CC and congratulates them not only on their win but their finish to gain a spot in the four. Nor does it have any issue with the Mordialloc CC,
Their curator is a Mordialloc player so how can you say you have no issue with them?
but to hear those who played commenting on the ball keeping low and turning square (off spin bowler took 14 wickets for 83) disappoints us because it again leads to questions by others about the integrity of that particular game
Are you questioning any game where there are lots of wickets discrepancies from one week to another?
and the competition in general. Now we werent there and we didnt see any of the game so we therefore know that if there were any issues with the pitch then the umpires would be detailing them in their report.
Little dig at the umpires in question to try and force them to make some form of report about the wicket
I guess we as a club are spoilt with the professional curation that we get from the COGD and can perhaps at times overlook the fact that not all clubs have the same advantages that we have.The aim of this letter is not to whinge or complain about how we were hard done by.
Your kidding arent you???Look above, if that is not whinging or complaining i dont know what is!

This all pretty courageous stuff coming from a bloke who doesnt put his name to the post...

Scruffy · Status: Offline

i'll cop that!!! but what i will say is i'm not an alias and all im trying to get across here is what i (and most likely others) that play against you think of this letter!

slocs · Status: Offline

laughable scruffy. if you had any idea about cricket you would not disagree on all of the above. maybe some or even most, but not "all".

Sobers · Status: Offline

Who are you then if not an alias.

Scruffy · Status: Offline

slocs wrote:

laughable scruffy. if you had any idea about cricket you would not disagree on all of the above. maybe some or even most, but not "all".

Slocs, Im certainly not perfect and im sure some of the above some ppl might disagree with but im just throwing it out there for you guys as no one on this forum has tried to pull your letter apart and pass judgment on it as yet.

slocs · Status: Offline

do you actually agree with all your answers or are you as you say just "pulling it apart" to raise a debate over it? just wanting to know where you are coming from.

Sobers · Status: Offline

Maybe someone with a clue could pull it apart but everyone of your points are just stupid, what the fark has last years granny got to do with last saturday. We know we played poorly for a couple of hours????

Sooky South · Status: Offline

don't bother any more scruffy. everything you wrote makes total sense as the rest of league laughs at them. sooky south should change there names from bloods to the sqeualing tear drops.

Scruffy · Status: Offline

slocs wrote:

do you actually agree with all your answers or are you as you say just "pulling it apart" to raise a debate over it? just wanting to know where you are coming from.

The "last years granny" was a thro away line but the rest I do honestly believe in or I wouldn't have said it! I respect ss but this letter smacks of SS trying to bully the ddca! Why wouldn't you just send this to the ddca and leave it at that! or send an email to other presidents asking for there opinion on the matter instead of displaying it for anyone to see?

I'm being serious here!!! Im not just creating debate! I believe that the rules should stay the same!

stumpy · Status: Offline

In relation to the Mordi wicket it took spin the first week with a lot of turn. Second week the wicket actually looked better than the first week. Spanna expoilted the conditions perfectly. There wasn't much kick and only one of his wickets came from a low bounce.

St Mary's wicket the match before against SSCC saw just about as much turn as the Mordi 2nd week but the difference was that St Mary's wicket jumped and kicked in bounce as well Sharpy and Slocs turned the ball more than they usually do.

Umpires no longer report on wickets as a matter of course but will do so when asked by the DDCA.

Goochy · Status: Offline

Scruffy you are a complete fkwit. Just get of the board will ya. You are making Mordi look worse than you thought Beaver did.

G Train · Status: Offline

Bit harsh Gooch. He's only giving his opinion.

BErnst · Status: Offline

G Train wrote:

Bit harsh Gooch. He's only giving his opinion.

What weight does that opinion hold behind a alias Gtrain?????
In my opinion 'nothing' so why bother posting what he did because he can't be taken serious or have anyone who cares?

Goochy · Status: Offline

Beaver is absolutely spot on Goodsey.

No-one gives a fck about anything he has to say until he mans the fck up and says who he is.

His whole post was a complete waste of time.

champ · Status: Offline

Scruffy wrote:

slocs wrote:

do you actually agree with all your answers or are you as you say just "pulling it apart" to raise a debate over it? just wanting to know where you are coming from.

The "last years granny" was a thro away line but the rest I do honestly believe in or I wouldn't have said it! I respect ss but this letter smacks of SS trying to bully the ddca! Why wouldn't you just send this to the ddca and leave it at that! or send an email to other presidents asking for there opinion on the matter instead of displaying it for anyone to see?

I'm being serious here!!! Im not just creating debate! I believe that the rules should stay the same!

Thats cool , lets see how many teams play dirty next year
and makes the comp look like back yard cricket.. and thats just my opinion

prince mark · Status: Offline

Why does Scruffy have to reveal himself to make his opinion valid?

G Train · Status: Offline

I was going to say the same thing Prince. Just because we don't know who it is, doesn't mean he can't have an opinion. Whether it be wrong or right. I don't see what the big deal is about having to know who everyone is. It usually comes out in the wash anyway, and it's up to the person themselves if they want to reveal there identity.