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English Test cricketers Batting Bowling Fielding
Cap Name Career Mat Inn NO Runs HS Avg Balls Mdn Runs Wkt Best Avg Ca St
542 Nasser Hussain 1990-2004 96 171 16 5764 207 37.19 30 - 15 - - - 67 -
543 Alec Stewart 1990-2003 133 235 21 8463 190 39.55 20 - 13 - - - 263 14
544 Chris Lewis 1990-1996 32 51 3 1105 117 23.02 6852 220 3490 93 6/111 37.53 25 -
545 John Morris 1990 3 5 2 71 32 23.67 - - - - - - 3 -
546 Neil Williams 1990 1 1 - 38 38 38.00 246 5 148 2 2/148 74.00 - -
547 Phil Tufnell 1990-2001 42 59 29 153 22* 5.10 11288 505 4560 121 7/47 37.69 12 -
548 Graeme Hick 1991-2001 65 114 6 3383 178 31.32 3057 128 1306 23 4/126 56.78 90 -
549 Mark Ramprakash 1991-2002 52 92 6 2350 154 27.33 895 16 477 4 1/2 119.25 39 -
550 Steve Watkin 1991-1993 3 5 - 25 13 5.00 534 17 305 11 4/65 27.73 1 -
551 Richard Illingworth 1991-1995 9 14 7 128 28 18.29 1485 77 615 19 4/96 32.37 5 -
552 Hugh Morris 1991 3 6 - 115 44 19.17 - - - - - - 3 -
553 Dermot Reeve 1992 3 5 - 124 59 24.80 149 8 60 2 1/4 30.00 1 -
554 Ian Salisbury 1992-2000 15 25 3 368 50 16.73 2492 50 1539 20 4/163 76.95 5 -
555 Tim Munton 1992 2 2 1 25 25* 25.00 405 15 200 4 2/22 50.00 - -
556 Neil Mallender 1992 2 3 - 8 4 2.67 449 20 215 10 5/50 21.50 - -
557 Paul Taylor 1993-1994 2 4 2 34 17* 17.00 288 9 156 3 1/18 52.00 - -
558 Richard Blakey 1993 2 4 - 7 6 1.75 - - - - - - 2 -
559 Andrew Caddick 1993-2003 62 95 12 861 49* 10.37 13558 501 6999 234 7/46 29.91 21 -
560 Peter Such 1993-1999 11 16 5 67 14* 6.09 3124 135 1242 37 6/67 33.57 4 -
561 Mark Ilott 1993-1995 5 6 2 28 15 7.00 1042 38 542 12 3/48 45.17 - -
562 Mark Lathwell 1993 2 4 - 78 33 19.50 - - - - - - - -
563 Martin McCague 1993-1994 3 5 - 21 11 4.20 593 17 390 6 4/121 65.00 1 -
564 Graham Thorpe 1993-2005 100 179 28 6744 200* 44.66 138 7 37 - - - 105 -
565 Martin Bicknell 1993-2003 4 7 - 45 15 6.43 1080 39 543 14 4/84 38.79 2 -
566 Steve Rhodes 1994-1995 11 17 5 294 65* 24.50 - - - - - - 46 3
567 Craig White 1994-2002 30 50 7 1052 121 24.47 3959 119 2220 59 5/32 37.63 14 -
568 Darren Gough 1994-2003 58 86 18 855 65 12.57 11821 369 6503 229 6/42 28.40 13 -
569 John Crawley 1994-2003 37 61 9 1800 156* 34.62 - - - - - - 29 -
570 Joey Benjamin 1994 1 1 - 0 0.00 168 3 80 4 4/42 20.00 - -
571 Peter Martin 1995-1997 8 13 - 115 29 8.85 1452 73 580 17 4/60 34.12 6 -
572 Dominic Cork 1995-2002 37 56 8 864 59 18.00 7678 264 3906 131 7/43 29.82 18 -
573 Jason Gallian 1995 3 6 - 74 28 12.33 84 1 62 - - - 1 -
574 Nick Knight 1995-2001 17 30 - 719 113 23.97 - - - - - - 26 -
575 Mike Watkinson 1995-1996 4 6 1 167 82* 33.40 672 24 348 10 3/64 34.80 1 -
576 Alan Wells 1995 1 2 1 3 3* 3.00 - - - - - - - -
577 Ronnie Irani 1996-1999 3 5 - 86 41 17.20 192 10 112 3 1/22 37.33 2 -
578 Alan Mullally 1996-2001 19 27 4 127 24 5.52 4525 213 1812 58 5/105 31.24 6 -
579 Min Patel 1996 2 2 - 45 27 22.50 276 8 180 1 1/101 180.00 2 -
580 Mark Ealham 1996-1998 8 13 3 210 53* 21.00 1060 43 488 17 4/21 28.71 4 -
581 Simon Brown 1996 1 2 1 11 10* 11.00 198 4 138 2 1/60 69.00 1 -
582 Robert Croft 1996-2001 21 34 8 421 37* 16.19 4619 195 1825 49 5/95 37.24 10 -
583 Chris Silverwood 1996-2002 6 7 3 29 10 7.25 828 27 444 11 5/91 40.36 2 -
584 Mark Butcher 1997-2004 71 131 7 4288 173* 34.58 901 27 541 15 4/42 36.07 61 -
585 Dean Headley 1997-1999 15 26 4 186 31 8.45 3026 82 1671 60 6/60 27.85 7 -
586 Andrew Michael Smith 1997 1 2 1 4 4* 4.00 138 2 89 - - - - -
587 Adam Hollioake 1997-1998 4 6 - 65 45 10.83 144 2 67 2 2/31 33.50 4 -
588 Ben Hollioake 1997-1998 2 4 - 44 28 11.00 252 4 199 4 2/105 49.75 2 -
589 Steve James 1998 2 4 - 71 36 17.75 - - - - - - - -
590 Ashley Giles 1998-2006 54 81 13 1421 59 20.89 12180 397 5806 143 5/57 40.60 33 -
591 Andrew Flintoff 1998-2009 714 117 8 3528 167 32.36 13600 465 6735 206 5/58 32.69 49 -
592 Alex Tudor 1998-2002 10 16 4 229 99* 19.08 1512 51 963 28 5/44 34.39 3 -
593 Warren Hegg 1998-1999 2 4 - 30 15 7.50 - - - - - - 8 -
594 Aftab Habib 1999 2 3 - 26 19 8.67 - - - - - - - -
595 Chris Read 1999-2007 15 23 4 360 55 18.94 - - - - - - 48 6
596 Ed Giddins 1999-2000 4 7 3 10 7 2.50 444 21 240 12 5/15 20.00 - -
597 Darren Maddy 1999-2000 3 4 - 46 24 11.50 84 1 40 - - - 4 -
598 Chris Adams 1999-2000 5 8 - 104 31 13.00 120 5 59 1 1/42 59.00 6 -
599 Gavin Hamilton 1999 1 2 - 0 0.00 90 1 63 - - - - -
600 Michael Vaughan 1999-2008 82 147 9 5719 197 41.44 978 21 561 6 2/71 93.50 44 -
Just to make my point Paul , there are some stinkers in this list .

Forgive me for slightly exagerating  but we will start with Nasser Hussain if u like



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If persuader didn't say "50 tests" then i would agree with him. Ayres probably would've played test cricket had he been English (or South African).

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the persuader wrote:

 

990s

English Test cricketers Batting Bowling Fielding
Cap Name Career Mat Inn NO Runs HS Avg Balls Mdn Runs Wkt Best Avg Ca St
542 Nasser Hussain 1990-2004 96 171 16 5764 207 37.19 30 - 15 - - - 67 -
543 Alec Stewart 1990-2003 133 235 21 8463 190 39.55 20 - 13 - - - 263 14
544 Chris Lewis 1990-1996 32 51 3 1105 117 23.02 6852 220 3490 93 6/111 37.53 25 -
545 John Morris 1990 3 5 2 71 32 23.67 - - - - - - 3 -
546 Neil Williams 1990 1 1 - 38 38 38.00 246 5 148 2 2/148 74.00 - -
547 Phil Tufnell 1990-2001 42 59 29 153 22* 5.10 11288 505 4560 121 7/47 37.69 12 -
548 Graeme Hick 1991-2001 65 114 6 3383 178 31.32 3057 128 1306 23 4/126 56.78 90 -
549 Mark Ramprakash 1991-2002 52 92 6 2350 154 27.33 895 16 477 4 1/2 119.25 39 -
550 Steve Watkin 1991-1993 3 5 - 25 13 5.00 534 17 305 11 4/65 27.73 1 -
551 Richard Illingworth 1991-1995 9 14 7 128 28 18.29 1485 77 615 19 4/96 32.37 5 -
552 Hugh Morris 1991 3 6 - 115 44 19.17 - - - - - - 3 -
553 Dermot Reeve 1992 3 5 - 124 59 24.80 149 8 60 2 1/4 30.00 1 -
554 Ian Salisbury 1992-2000 15 25 3 368 50 16.73 2492 50 1539 20 4/163 76.95 5 -
555 Tim Munton 1992 2 2 1 25 25* 25.00 405 15 200 4 2/22 50.00 - -
556 Neil Mallender 1992 2 3 - 8 4 2.67 449 20 215 10 5/50 21.50 - -
557 Paul Taylor 1993-1994 2 4 2 34 17* 17.00 288 9 156 3 1/18 52.00 - -
558 Richard Blakey 1993 2 4 - 7 6 1.75 - - - - - - 2 -
559 Andrew Caddick 1993-2003 62 95 12 861 49* 10.37 13558 501 6999 234 7/46 29.91 21 -
560 Peter Such 1993-1999 11 16 5 67 14* 6.09 3124 135 1242 37 6/67 33.57 4 -
561 Mark Ilott 1993-1995 5 6 2 28 15 7.00 1042 38 542 12 3/48 45.17 - -
562 Mark Lathwell 1993 2 4 - 78 33 19.50 - - - - - - - -
563 Martin McCague 1993-1994 3 5 - 21 11 4.20 593 17 390 6 4/121 65.00 1 -
564 Graham Thorpe 1993-2005 100 179 28 6744 200* 44.66 138 7 37 - - - 105 -
565 Martin Bicknell 1993-2003 4 7 - 45 15 6.43 1080 39 543 14 4/84 38.79 2 -
566 Steve Rhodes 1994-1995 11 17 5 294 65* 24.50 - - - - - - 46 3
567 Craig White 1994-2002 30 50 7 1052 121 24.47 3959 119 2220 59 5/32 37.63 14 -
568 Darren Gough 1994-2003 58 86 18 855 65 12.57 11821 369 6503 229 6/42 28.40 13 -
569 John Crawley 1994-2003 37 61 9 1800 156* 34.62 - - - - - - 29 -
570 Joey Benjamin 1994 1 1 - 0 0.00 168 3 80 4 4/42 20.00 - -
571 Peter Martin 1995-1997 8 13 - 115 29 8.85 1452 73 580 17 4/60 34.12 6 -
572 Dominic Cork 1995-2002 37 56 8 864 59 18.00 7678 264 3906 131 7/43 29.82 18 -
573 Jason Gallian 1995 3 6 - 74 28 12.33 84 1 62 - - - 1 -
574 Nick Knight 1995-2001 17 30 - 719 113 23.97 - - - - - - 26 -
575 Mike Watkinson 1995-1996 4 6 1 167 82* 33.40 672 24 348 10 3/64 34.80 1 -
576 Alan Wells 1995 1 2 1 3 3* 3.00 - - - - - - - -
577 Ronnie Irani 1996-1999 3 5 - 86 41 17.20 192 10 112 3 1/22 37.33 2 -
578 Alan Mullally 1996-2001 19 27 4 127 24 5.52 4525 213 1812 58 5/105 31.24 6 -
579 Min Patel 1996 2 2 - 45 27 22.50 276 8 180 1 1/101 180.00 2 -
580 Mark Ealham 1996-1998 8 13 3 210 53* 21.00 1060 43 488 17 4/21 28.71 4 -
581 Simon Brown 1996 1 2 1 11 10* 11.00 198 4 138 2 1/60 69.00 1 -
582 Robert Croft 1996-2001 21 34 8 421 37* 16.19 4619 195 1825 49 5/95 37.24 10 -
583 Chris Silverwood 1996-2002 6 7 3 29 10 7.25 828 27 444 11 5/91 40.36 2 -
584 Mark Butcher 1997-2004 71 131 7 4288 173* 34.58 901 27 541 15 4/42 36.07 61 -
585 Dean Headley 1997-1999 15 26 4 186 31 8.45 3026 82 1671 60 6/60 27.85 7 -
586 Andrew Michael Smith 1997 1 2 1 4 4* 4.00 138 2 89 - - - - -
587 Adam Hollioake 1997-1998 4 6 - 65 45 10.83 144 2 67 2 2/31 33.50 4 -
588 Ben Hollioake 1997-1998 2 4 - 44 28 11.00 252 4 199 4 2/105 49.75 2 -
589 Steve James 1998 2 4 - 71 36 17.75 - - - - - - - -
590 Ashley Giles 1998-2006 54 81 13 1421 59 20.89 12180 397 5806 143 5/57 40.60 33 -
591 Andrew Flintoff 1998-2009 714 117 8 3528 167 32.36 13600 465 6735 206 5/58 32.69 49 -
592 Alex Tudor 1998-2002 10 16 4 229 99* 19.08 1512 51 963 28 5/44 34.39 3 -
593 Warren Hegg 1998-1999 2 4 - 30 15 7.50 - - - - - - 8 -
594 Aftab Habib 1999 2 3 - 26 19 8.67 - - - - - - - -
595 Chris Read 1999-2007 15 23 4 360 55 18.94 - - - - - - 48 6
596 Ed Giddins 1999-2000 4 7 3 10 7 2.50 444 21 240 12 5/15 20.00 - -
597 Darren Maddy 1999-2000 3 4 - 46 24 11.50 84 1 40 - - - 4 -
598 Chris Adams 1999-2000 5 8 - 104 31 13.00 120 5 59 1 1/42 59.00 6 -
599 Gavin Hamilton 1999 1 2 - 0 0.00 90 1 63 - - - - -
600 Michael Vaughan 1999-2008 82 147 9 5719 197 41.44 978 21 561 6 2/71 93.50 44 -
Just to make my point Paul , there are some stinkers in this list .

Forgive me for slightly exagerating  but we will start with Nasser Hussain if u like

 


Point well made...Looking at those stats I think Chappy cost himself a cap also. He should have delayed his Hallam arrival by a year or two.


 



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Fark me persuader how long did it take you to type all that?

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That's the thing that got me as well GT. Not many bad players play 50 tests.

Nasser wasn't a bad player. Test double hundred v Oz can't be bad!!
Incidentally, I saw a piece once that showed that Nasser and Hick got more bad decisions than any other players in test cricket during that time - by some distance. It was staggering how many times they were sawn off.


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I heard Mark Waugh say that Pubic Ayres was the best fieldsman he'd seen back in the day.

-- Edited by prince mark on Tuesday 25th of May 2010 09:43:28 PM

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Pubic Ayres.....LRQ...

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how come he did so poorly at shield level? 7 centuries against quality attacks aint too poor in my opinion. hick faced backyard cricketers for a living.

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Goochy wrote:

That's the thing that got me as well GT. Not many bad players play 50 tests.

Nasser wasn't a bad player. Test double hundred v Oz can't be bad!!
Incidentally, I saw a piece once that showed that Nasser and Hick got more bad decisions than any other players in test cricket during that time - by some distance. It was staggering how many times they were sawn off.


Come on Gooch, Neil williams averaged more than Hussain for farks sake

 



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prince mark wrote:

I heard Mark Waugh say that Pubic Ayres was the best fieldsman he'd seen back in the day.

-- Edited by prince mark on Tuesday 25th of May 2010 09:43:28 PM


lmfao lwco

 



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This isn't going to go anywhere. It just seems that if he was as good as Jason says, there must be a reason as to why he has a moderate state record.

Hussain averaged 38 in Tests - often on ordinary English wickets - yet Ayres is a better player? It doesn't make sense.



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Goochy wrote:

This isn't going to go anywhere. It just seems that if he was as good as Jason says, there must be a reason as to why he has a moderate state record.

Hussain averaged 38 in Tests - often on ordinary English wickets - yet Ayres is a better player? It doesn't make sense.


I know Ayres should have played a bucket load more of state cricket and didn't, in some ways it was similar to how Hodge should have played more Test cricket clearly Hodge would have played 50 test for any other country but to say Ayres would of is a huge call. But i did not see alot of Ayres bat so others who have are best to judge

 



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having seen a lot of ayresy, its ridiculous how easily he does it all.
never seen a better cricketer in my short career.
only thing stopping him from making thousands next year is if he doesnt fully commit to the comp, which knowing the pride of the bloke in his game wont happen.

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Comparing the 2 is a bit silly. 1 is a runs machine over 25 years and the other is a quality allrounder that has played for his country. 1 thing is for certain, Aryes will make more runs on a larger ground than Franks did last season.

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2 OLD 2 SLOW wrote:

Comparing the 2 is a bit silly. 1 is a runs machine over 25 years and the other is a quality allrounder that has played for his country. 1 thing is for certain, Aryes will make more runs on a larger ground than Franks did last season.



 agreed!!



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2 OLD 2 SLOW wrote:

Comparing the 2 is a bit silly. 1 is a runs machine over 25 years and the other is a quality allrounder that has played for his country. 1 thing is for certain, Aryes will make more runs on a larger ground than Franks did last season.


What id like to see is a bit more pace in SSCC deck as well. This will definatley make it better for more stroke play.

 



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If he leads sscc to the 20/20 title, takes them to the "G" and wins the turf 1 flag likes franksie did I'm sure sscc will be as happy as we were with franks last season.

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Left hand opener wrote:

If he leads sscc to the 20/20 title, takes them to the "G" and wins the turf 1 flag likes franksie did I'm sure sscc will be as happy as we were with franks last season.



everyone knows your the real spiritual leader down at the stamp mate



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Reading todays Journal, there is story about Ayers going back to sscc,saying he has been offerd massive money elsewhere but chose to come home, stopit you are making my ears spew ,what he is getting a dollar a run?

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the persuader wrote:

Left hand opener wrote:

If he leads sscc to the 20/20 title, takes them to the "G" and wins the turf 1 flag likes franksie did I'm sure sscc will be as happy as we were with franks last season.



everyone knows your the real spiritual leader down at the stamp mate


 everyone knows you are the bar fly down at the manor

 



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