why change it, promotion relegation works. Keeps every grade at it's strongest, if some clubs are not up too it they will find out and end up going down!!

its not because im from a strong club, because that can change over a winter, you only have to lose 5 or so players and things change quickly.  
my question would be what are lynbrook doing to develop there club? yes it makes it harder for a couple of clubs atm. narre nth look to have made in roads quickly by attracting players.  

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If, and I say IF, the DDCA would consider a change to the gradings, there is a lot to be learned from Premier cricket and other Associations, maybe we could have a premier level where sides in that comp have 2 elevens, obviously firsts and seconds, playing the same opponent, one home , one away ie 1s play home . 2s play away , same round.....just putting it out there, let me know your thoughts

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thats my point. l like the idea.

 

Sir and father time how do you propose a club such as lynbrook recruits players to the club without the chance to play turf. You used nncc as the example but they recruited blokes to lift them through the turf grades. Your system doesn't allow clubs to do that. surely your not suggesting the A grade premier replaces the turf 2 wooden spooner.

The current system equalises the competition anyway. If a Turf 1 club is strong enough to have Turf 2 then good luck to them. This allows junior development and lessons the gap bringing players into Turf 1.

The same applies for Turf 2 sides. If their 2nds are capable of playing Turf 3 they deserve to do so, once again the gap is reduced when bringing players up. Clubs can  use their 2nds to develop kids and control the cycle of ageing first 11s

This forms a natural player retention / replacement programme

just another alias wrote:

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Sir and father time how do you propose a club such as lynbrook recruits players to the club without the chance to play turf. You used nncc as the example but they recruited blokes to lift them through the turf grades. Your system doesn't allow clubs to do that. surely your not suggesting the A grade premier replaces the turf 2 wooden spooner.

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wasnt me that posted abt lynbrook. I was just agrreeing with Sir's idea. In a perfect world thats what it would be. The ddca wouldn't change the system anyway...if anything they create another turf division for the clubs that arent up to it. A better idea would've been to send those particular club grade bk to synthetic.

And with Lynbrook and Narre Nth i would suggest when they start in turf they would be in Turf 4. Once they win a premiership they get promoted to Turf 2 providing they have a 2nd team available to play turf. This then would give them time to recruit and improve.

 

Your fascination with keysborough is getting too you tiger. I'm not sheepy.
I actually think 12 teams is too many for turf 1. No matter what happens in the next 4 weeks you are still going to be left with teams in turf 1 that aren't up to it. One up and one down doesn't always work in a promotion/relegation system.
I would have only 8 teams. play each other twice, once in a one day game and once in a two day game. The quality of the matches would be outstanding.

*Beat me to it JAA.

I'm sorry fellas but it's a shocking idea and would never work.

The proposal below would be far better IMO, interested in your thoughts.

Based on current ladder positions the turf grades would look like below next year. Now i'm not saying it should come in next year, it's just an example. The top 8 from Turf 1 this year remain in Turf 1 and the bottom 4 of Turf 1 and the top 4 of turf 2 become Turf 2 and so on to create 8 team competitions. It becomes a divisional system from then on, with bottom side going down, premiers going up. The only catch is that the top 2 Turf grades must all be first X1 teams. So if Springy Sth were to win the Turf 3 flag for example, they would remain in Turf 3. Underneath that it's fair game. This would make all competitions stronger and more competitive. The only issue though, as i've said before is that you will struggle to get votes from those who think they'll be around the bottom half of the ladder the year before it was introduced.

The fixture would work so that every team plays each other twice, once away and once at home both in a two dayer and a one dayer. You can't get any fairer than that.

Turf 1

Buckley
Springy Sth
Berwick
Parkfield
Doveton
Nth Dandy
Mordialloc
Hallam

Turf 2

Dandy West
St Mary's
Keysy
Narre Warren
Coomoora
Lyndale
HSD
Cranbourne

Turf 3

Springy Sth
Hampton Park
Narre North
Fountain Gate
Buckley
St.Brigids
MM's
Pirates

Turf 4

Nth Dandy
Silverton
Cranbourne
Hallam
Berwick
HSD
Doveton Nth
Doveton

Turf 5

Parkfield
Narre Warren
Dandy West
St.Mary's
Coomoora
Keysy
F.Gate
Springy Sth


Turf 6

Hampton Park
Springvale
Silverton
Lyndale
Cranbourne
Narre North
Lynbrook
St.Brigids

Turf 7 (Depending on ground availability but i'm sure we could find 3 clubs that would like another turf team)

Dandy West
MMs
Mordialloc
Springvale
Doveton Nth
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-- Edited by G Train on Tuesday 8th of February 2011 01:00:44 PM

Mate, I seriously can't believe you think your idea is better. It's hopeless. I can sort of understand what advantages you see in it. But i really don't think you've looked at the negatives at all, which incidentally far outweigh the positives.