Turf 2 top 4

G Train · Status: Offline

RE: Turf 2 top 4

sir · Status: Offline

What about my point that some A grade sides should be in turf 5? because they are better then some turf 5 sides.

G Train · Status: Offline

Are you fair dinkum?

sir · Status: Offline

yes.

prince mark · Status: Offline

You could go down every grade and say that Sir

G Train · Status: Offline

Well for starters, A Grade is played on synthetic and Turf 5 is played on Turf.

sir · Status: Offline

you could prince, just shows the current system has flaws.

Particularly turf 5 / A grade.

sir · Status: Offline

G Train wrote:

Well for starters, A Grade is played on synthetic and Turf 5 is played on Turf.

so, you're stated teams are playing where they should be, this not the case.

ExElpres · Status: Offline

I want to see Trains system implemented next season !

Sorry Sir, your theory is ridiculous. A team can win the flag in T3 and get relegated, that year ? Spare me..............

sir · Status: Offline

ExElpres wrote:

I want to see Trains system implemented next season !

Sorry Sir, your theory is ridiculous. A team can win the flag in T3 and get relegated, that year ? Spare me..............

ok i understand that part may not work, but i still believe that 1s play 1s and 2s play 2s.

ExElpres · Status: Offline

I like the sounds of that too, but its not like footy where you can rock up and watch both games etc. I don't think it really matters if your grades are all playing different opponents.......

It also means plenty of sides will be playing above/below where they should be, just because of the position their ones find themselves in.

Imagine winning the flag every year but can't go up cos your ones are junk or winning the spoon every year but can't go down cos your ones are awesome !

The mob winning Turf 4 every year would be ropable if the **** team in T3's ones, were just middle of the road !

Sobers · Status: Offline

I didn't like this topic , so I didn't read it

Darrel Hair · Status: Offline

So Sir,

You are suggesting that a side which has a Turf 3 side as its firsts elevates it's A grade side to Turf 5 and get beaten outright each match thereby losing possibly eleven cricketers from the competition because they can't compete.

As far as good A Grade cricketers are concerned when they bowl on Turf they will be bowling with a ball that doesn't swing as much or batting on a pitch that does a lot more. There is a fair difference between Turf and Synthetic cricket, These are just two of the more important ones. Clubs at the beginning of each year nminate their sides and can request a different grade to the one they are playing in.

Under your plan there would be T1 and reserves T3 and reserves. How do you elevate and relegate sides that are obviously not up to the grade or are too good for their grade.

Rocky Burdett · Status: Offline

thegoblin99 wrote:

The current system equalises the competition anyway. If a Turf 1 club is strong enough to have Turf 2 then good luck to them. This allows junior development and lessons the gap bringing players into Turf 1.

The same applies for Turf 2 sides. If their 2nds are capable of playing Turf 3 they deserve to do so, once again the gap is reduced when bringing players up. Clubs can use their 2nds to develop kids and control the cycle of ageing first 11s

This forms a natural player retention / replacement programme

Spot on. Case closed.

thegoblin99 · Status: Offline

Final post for me on this.

Everyone assumes that playing on turf means that the standard is better than synthetic. IMO this is not always the case as the smart clubs fill their 2nd turf side up with kids as a form of retention and development. We have to do this because District cricket grabs our youth sometimes just to fill the 4ths

Somtimes an A grade side could beat a low grade turf side because it has older players but this has no relevance

This year coz of the big wet we start to forget the value of 80 over cricket. There are enough forms of 1 day cricket at the minute. Playing as many 80 over games as possible is vital.

Last point--- Is there any value in the bottom 2 sides being relegated and the 2 grand finalists coming up from T2?

Goochy · Status: Offline

We.don't.play.80.over.cricket.and.we've.beat.you.in.three.out.of.four.ashes.

It.is.****.cricket.IMO

lucksta · Status: Offline

the best 2 sides i have played in turf 2 this year are hsd and cranny in my opinion

PRINGLES · Status: Offline

Darrel Hair wrote:

So Sir,

You are suggesting that a side which has a Turf 3 side as its firsts elevates it's A grade side to Turf 5 and get beaten outright each match thereby losing possibly eleven cricketers from the competition because they can't compete.

As far as good A Grade cricketers are concerned when they bowl on Turf they will be bowling with a ball that doesn't swing as much or batting on a pitch that does a lot more. There is a fair difference between Turf and Synthetic cricket, These are just two of the more important ones. Clubs at the beginning of each year nminate their sides and can request a different grade to the one they are playing in.

Under your plan there would be T1 and reserves T3 and reserves. How do you elevate and relegate sides that are obviously not up to the grade or are too good for their grade.

           Cmon Darrel

           At the upper grades of course your right but there are plenty of A grade
           boys running around in club Thirds that have played a lot of turf cricket
           and know what a 4 piece looks like. I know of a bloke that moved clubs and
           is now playing turf 5 and was in our synthetic 2nds.So dont try and tell me
           boys playing at a strong club without access to a 2nd turf ground couldnt
           compete with clubs that do in turf 5 .

just another alias · Status: Offline

I had just written something similar pringles but you beat me to it, darrel's theory is confusing. harder to bowl cause the ball wont do much but yet harder to bat cause the pitch will do more?
Id be more than happy to back Sir's a grade side against some of the turf 5 sides on any surface.

PRINGLES · Status: Offline

exactly jaa

Not just talking sirs team either Buckley A grade and a couple of others

-- Edited by PRINGLES on Tuesday 8th of February 2011 07:31:30 PM