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The Chosen One


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slocs wrote:

Will he fit in the photo copier????

 He should do - he's not overly tall. biggrin



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You are not wrong at all Mr. Slocombe. As someone else has said on here, some clubs must be stacking their 2s, or are taking a big risk.

 What risk are you talking about? Rightly or wrongly Kiwis are not classed as o/seas players. Clubs will play several Kiwis as well as an overseas player. The points is the only real calculation.

Yes its a can or worms but precedence has been set so in my view if a club has multiple Kiwis and they are good enough they will play 1sts



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Rules are rules gob****e. Plain and simple.

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gobby


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Well lets get serious. Are you suggesting that the new rule will be enforced? The whole Kiwi thing is a joke anyway. Clubs that have Kiwis will be allowed a years grace or the rule about permanent residency will be scrapped.

 



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gobby wrote:
The Chosen One wrote:

You are not wrong at all Mr. Slocombe. As someone else has said on here, some clubs must be stacking their 2s, or are taking a big risk.

 What risk are you talking about? Rightly or wrongly Kiwis are not classed as o/seas players. Clubs will play several Kiwis as well as an overseas player. The points is the only real calculation.

Yes its a can or worms but precedence has been set so in my view if a club has multiple Kiwis and they are good enough they will play 1sts

 Unless i am mistaken, New Zealand is not a state or territory of Australia, and therefore is classified as an overseas country. Any player that comes from NZ and is not a resident of Oztralya is considered an overseas player. That is where the risk lies.



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slocs


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Too logical chosen one. They let it slide last year so what's done is done. Why be wrong 2 years in a row? Scrap the permanent resident rule or scrap the kiwis. Quite simple.

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The Chosen One


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Can we expect the DDCA to be more vigilant this season, or can clubs go chasing K1W1s and not expect any fallout? Interesting position.



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slocs


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You can have 4 kiwis and an overseas player and the rest one pointers. Up to you.

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There is no doubt that under the rule the way it is worded that Kiwi's are classified as overseas players. I may be wrong but I thought the DDCA changed the rule (including the reference to the Migration act) to clarify this. Clubs had to hand the overseas players form in a week ago and the DDCA then approves this form. If clubs haven't included these NZ players on their form, and they play this week, then there is an issue in my opinion.

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gobby


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Big Bro, you would have thought if there was an issue several clubs would be very vocal.

Silence is golden



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In the leader Dandy West says its playing the Kiwi's in T1 and there Pom oversea's player in Second XI which T4, yeah right



-- Edited by billy bowden on Wednesday 5th of October 2011 03:55:02 PM

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The Points system is the only way it can be governed. There are to many loop holes in the current rule.
What happens if you have a junior player and he is not a permanent resident and then when he becomes a senior player is he be regarded as a 4 point overseas player or only a 1 point player?



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Why not have no rules and the richest club wins? like the epl

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Philbo wrote:

The Points system is the only way it can be governed. There are to many loop holes in the current rule.
What happens if you have a junior player and he is not a permanent resident and then when he becomes a senior player is he be regarded as a 4 point overseas player or only a 1 point player?

 good conundrum philbo. 4 games of juniors then means he is a 1 point overseas player in seniors.... unless of course he is a permanent resident or a kiwi....



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Gypsy wrote:

Why not have no rules and the richest club wins? like the epl

 the richest club doesn't always win gypsy....



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Philbo


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Think you will find they are classified as a base player 1 point. Not an overseas at all. the points cap is the ultimate rule.

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slocs


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the points cap is a rule. so is the permanent resident rule. there is no "ultimate" rule at the moment. maybe there should be to clear things up.

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There is one simple solution to all of this. Use the points system as it's designed to be used. Every team has a designated amount of points and can play whoever they choose, as long as they stay within the cap.

But that would be too easy...

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slocs wrote:
Gypsy wrote:

Why not have no rules and the richest club wins? like the epl

 the richest club doesn't always win gypsy....

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Massive storm and downpour in Cranny Sth no chance of play out this way on Sat. Seems to be heading for Narre, Berwick area.

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