Umpires

stumpy · Status: Offline

Umpires

billy bowden · Status: Offline

stumpy,

the following happen yesterday,

Batsman hits the ball to boundary, " NO SIGNAL " from umpire and batsman doesn't leave his crease,

What gets entered in the score book for the ball bowled ?

stumpy · Status: Offline

Rule 18
1. A run
The score shall be reckoned by runs. A run is scored
(a) so often as the batsmen, at any time while the ball is in play, have crossed and made good their ground from end to end.
(b) when a boundary is scored. See Law 19 (Boundaries).
(c) when penalty runs are awarded. See 6 below.
(d) when Lost ball is called. See Law 20 (Lost ball).

Law 3

14.Signals

(a)The following code of signals shall be used by umpires.

(i)Signals made while the ball is in play

Dead ball- by crossing and re-crossing the wrists below the waist.

No ball- by extending one arm horizontally.

Out- by raising an index finger above the

head. (If not out, the umpire shall call

Not out.)

Wide- by extending both arms horizontally.

(ii)When the ball is dead, the bowlers end umpire shall repeat the signals above, with the exception of the signal for Out, to the scorers.

(iii)The signals listed below shall be made to the scorers only when the ball is dead.

Boundary 4- by waving an arm from side to side finishing with the arm across the chest

Boundary 6- by raising both arms above the head.

Bye- by raising an open hand above the head.

Commencement- by pointing to a raised wrist with the

of last hourother hand.

Five penalty runs awarded to the batting side- by repeated tapping of one shoulder with the opposite hand.

Five penalty runs awarded to the fielding side- by placing one hand on the opposite shoulder.

Leg bye- by touching a raised knee with the hand.

New ball- by holding the ball above the head.

Revoke- by touching both shoulders, each with

last signalthe opposite hand.

Short run- by bending one arm upwards and

touching the nearer shoulder with the

tips of the fingers.

All these signals are to be made by the bowlers end umpire except that for Short run, which is to be signalled by the umpire at the end where short running occurs. However, the bowlers end umpire shall be responsible both for the final signal of Short run to the scorers and for informing them as to the number of runs to be recorded.

(b)The umpire shall wait until each signal to the scorers has been separately acknowledged by a scorer before allowing play to proceed.

In effect umpire at bowlers end should signal four runs and not proceed until scorer has acknowledged the signal.

irongloves · Status: Offline

Might I give you a polite send off. I played for Cranbourne 19 years ago, ****. I think will now call you Robin Hood as he had a pretty long bow too . . .

AND BTW the DDCA has never selected umpires to officiate in any match it is the job of the Umpires Selection Panel. So when you can get at least 2 out of 3 facts right then you are entitled to comment, Robin.

Stumpy, as I said, I have no personal beef with you. In fact, no need for a "polite send off"; you should always call it as you see it on and off the field and tell me to frake off, if that's what you really think. I can take it.

You really are splittinbg hairs re DDCA and umpires panel. Of course I know 48 umpires on the DDCA's books are selected to officiate at each game by a selection panel, but are you trying to say they operate under their own or some Martian imprimatur and not the ddca's. the panel may be ''independent'' but at the end of the day the chairman answers to the ddca, which sets the policy/agenda for the way the association and all those functioning within are guided.

And don't get me started on no balls, because as I said, I really didn't have a beef with you when this particular episode started, but if you want me to outline one incident from yesterday when I was not 80 metres away but much closer and saw your signal from square leg and then abject denial against what was clearly seen by all, then you are opening a whole new dimension.

stumpy · Status: Offline

irongloves wrote:

You really are splittinbg hairs re DDCA and umpires panel. Of course I know 48 umpires on the DDCA's books are selected to officiate at each game by a selection panel, but are you trying to say they operate under their own or some Martian imprimatur and not the ddca's. the panel may be ''independent'' but at the end of the day the chairman answers to the ddca, which sets the policy/agenda for the way the association and all those functioning within are guided.

Totally wrong. As I wrote the DDC Umpires Association rule on this one the DDCUA committee appoint the Umpires Appointment Panel which is the ratified by the DDCUA members. The selection criteria are also enshrined in the DDCUA Rules of association , an independent association.

So the Umpires selection Panel answers to the Umpires Association Executive not the DDCA. And if you think that is wrong see here http://www.ddca.com.au/content.aspx?file=83|18625e you will find DDCUA Rules about 2/3rds down the page.

-- Edited by stumpy on Monday 21st of January 2013 09:40:26 AM

irongloves · Status: Offline

bureaucratic speak befitting your day job Stump. congratulations on writing the book for umps, but beware. another bloke with a mo also wrote a book on how he through things should be and look where it landed him (and, sadly, the world).

irongloves · Status: Offline

incongrous word in second line should read ''thought''. my bad.

stumpy · Status: Offline

BTW irongloves you will find that the DDCUA was one of the inaugural clubs under the DDCA Constitution and is still a separate club apart from the DDCA just like Buckley Ridges, Springy South or any other affiliated club..

Would you like the DDCA coming down and selecting your First XI, 2nds etc well neither does the DDCUA that is why all appointments are independent of DDCA. Say what you like I find offensive the reference to Hitler in discussing anything to do with myself or umpires.

bakerboy · Status: Offline

At a turf 2 game today the ball was hit into the creek at around the 36th over. The ball was found and although wet was in ok condition. While the ball was being looked for players went and got an older spare 4 piece just in case. A new 4 piece was also brought out. The ball was found and after a short discussion the umpires let the bowling team use the brand new 4 piece!!!

Surely this is totally wrong?!?! I've played for a long time and have never seen this happen before. It has always been use the ball if it is found, wet or not, an at worse use a suitable replacement at a similar condition.

Also Earlier in the year one of our T2 batsman was told that because he was wearing long sleeve skins under his white shirt, that if the ball came off his skins and was caught he would be out!! Not 100% on that ruling but does not sound correct to me.

Where do they find these guys?

irongloves · Status: Offline

i was thinking of charlie chaplin. funny guy!

bushIE · Status: Offline

bakerboy it is up to the home club to supply suitable ball if it needs replacing

XXX · Status: Offline

Bakerboy it is my understanding the ball cannot be replaced when wet only. The law states wet is not a adverse condition. Also it can be dried using a towel or a cloth. As for replacing it with a new ball um that is not in the rules.

irongloves · Status: Offline

nice photo of junior match on first page of this chat forum: but how many flies did bobby swollow during the match and was his decision making affected?